Friend has a pretty annoying problem with his Logan Ambiance. He has quiet yet very persistant tak-tak...tak-tak-tak...tak... sound - that appears to be coming from his left (drivers side) window. When window is fully closed to the top - problem is gone. If window is at least few centimeters open - that noise is present (it is initiated by the little bumps on the road mostly). Even when car is stopped, he managed to get that sound from a window glass when took it with his hand and tried to move it up and down a bit. Apart from that window glass seems to be properly mounted and "stable" . Model is Ambiance - so it is pure mechanic (no electric motors for windows etc.) Any idea what might be cause for this?

This sounds like the cable on the window winder is maybe tapping the inside of the door try holding the winder handle tightly when driving and see how that works
Stu

It is a very common problem amongst Logan owners with mechanicals windows.
Mine makes a noise even when is fully closed. I know how to solve it but i'm a very lazy person, at the romanian section somebody explained how to solve it, but it needs time, atention and skill.

Then Share it with us in English
Stu

I'm sorry, i'm afraid i can't translate that post, i have a poor technical english.
Of course i would have told you what's to be done there, altrough i'm not sure that our friend would agree to start working with the screw driver at a brand new car.

EARPLUGS
Stu

COPYRIGHT DRAGOSMANEA
I've just translated the essential:

Remove the door panel (remove the interior door handle, the speaker). After you removed all screws , pull hard and constant the door panel starting with the mirror area.


In the first photo you can see the interior of the door and the electric window mechanism:

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Lower the window at half so you can acces the two screws which hold the window.
Remove the screws in order to remove those black little parts shown in picture no.3. These can be removed by unclicking their clips which must be pressed. For this purpose use a screwdriver simultaneously pressing the clip and by pushing it out.

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In picture no.3 you can see how it looks after removing the "small black parts". After you remove the screws push-up hard on the window, and then you can leave it free because it won't fall.

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Place something soft on the entire surface of black part which is in contact with thw window surface (I used a piece of T shirt). Use also grease to lubricate the cloth and the white component.

This is how it should look at the end:

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This post has been edited by 13nov: 19 Sep 2006, 08:55

Thank you very much for this guided instructions!

As much as I can see this is Logan with electric windows - does it mean that problem is common for all Logans no matter if they do have electric or mechanical window mechanism?
And that cause of that tak-tak sound is the same in both cases?

As far as I could tell, this is known problem with all Logans. Also, the same issue appears on Megans and Clios with exactly the same solution shown above... I hope that Renault will change this in the future...

Mine is OK no noises so far
Stu

Same happens on the Opel Astra H and the new Seat Leon, so it appears to be quite a general problem among car manufacturers.

It is not a "general problem among car manufacturers"! It's a "general problem among road manufacturers" .
And Stu, please do not make us to invite you to stay in our part of Europe... Your dear Logan will hate you in this case!

Yes I think you are right there !
In the 70s I drove through East Germany with the British Army en rout to Berlin .I have never seen such big holes in the road as they had
Stu

Just come to Romania and you'll remember those roads!

I must say though that German roads are not the best anymore believe me
and to drive on the Autobahn is not fun anymore
Stu

AAAAGHHHHH .I heard the dreaded tap tap tapping this morning as I drove along a bad road .
It is not bad but is annoying I thought it was the door lock button but it wasnt ah well .Its like I said the German roads are also not so good
Stu

For Life!



Since when?

Since Germany started putting speed limits and mass autobahn repairs
in the way
If you want to drive from Karlsruhe to Stuttgart on a work day you need to plan 2 hours for the journey 90kms
go here and have a look around http://www.verkehrsinfo.de/
Stu

1. You're right mate, the speed limits on the autobahns are a very big problem especially for the 1,4 with 75 HP Logan owners, isn't it?

2. If the roads are no more the best, shouldn't be repaired? I mean, this thing i really cannot understand. You want good roads, but no repair measures when necessary. You hate the holes in the road, but during road-repairing you hate that you can not drive with 200 km/h with your muscle-car named logan.

3. And the last question, who forces you to live in Germany, when England has better roads and a better sistem?

I drive every day about 200-300 km here, and I've never said "scheiß Baustelle dahana", because I am happy to see that the people are trying to do something.

P.S: And do not forget that you don't pay any road-taxes in Germany, as you pay almost anywhere else in Europe. What do you say about Austria, where you pay autobahn taxes, and the roads (I may say) are not a bit better than in Germany? Or Romania? You pay road taxes, but you got almost no highway at all. For a 300 km journey you have to plan 5 or 6 ours and a visit to service after that.

#1 the logan can reach the German speed limit of 130 kph (recomended)
#2 I have lived in Germany for 35 yrs also do not find this being any of your business
We do all pay road tax and it is a lot of money when you realize that 87cents of our Petrol money goes into the tax pot 1 ltr costs 125cents
ask any Romanian truck driver what he thinks of the german rip off roads who track trucks by Satelit and send the ROAD TAX on to the trucking firm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toll_Collect
#Why do you not fill in your profile ? Where you live and what you drive (Age)
Stu

This post has been edited by martin245: 8 Oct 2006, 11:56

To all: please return to the topic (Tak-tak sound from a window mechanism), or else i will take measures against all of you.

Oops
stu


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Sorry for getting more old and senile
This one works...if somebody is still interested.

http://www.daciaclub.ro/index.php?showtopic=54505

Mccoy !!
That is my English Humour (I love it )
keep up the good fun
Stu

I’d rather say Scottish…


http://www.daciaclub.ro/index.php?showtopic=47291&st=0

If its Scotch what you mean .....and in a bottle .... then you have got it Right first time ..HICK
STU http://www.charm.net/~kmarsh/scotch.html

off topic again but still love my Logan

This post has been edited by martin245: 11 Oct 2006, 23:21

Haven’t you heard for Scottish sense of humor?
Scottish – of or related to Scotland…

Don`t drink Scotch and drive...Logan.

Is is something that you can ask the dealer to repair for you within the warranty period?

Or they will just say: well it is not a malfunction, it is just (annoying) sound - thereofre, there is not reason to claim the warranty.

what is a price of glass for front windows?