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ydaniel
post 17 Dec 2005, 22:20
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deci se potrivesc alte difuzoare la acest carburator de tip"desen animat"?si unde gasesc jiglere de 180 pt aer si benzina?


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post 18 Dec 2005, 11:36
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Poti sa modifici jicloarele originale. Adaugi aliaj de lipit pana se astupa gaurile si le dai din nou.


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post 18 Dec 2005, 17:20
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Modificari pentru ce? Pentru economie? Daca da, parca nu din jigloare se facea economia...


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post 18 Dec 2005, 20:03
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NU pt economie!sa mearga mai bine:) scria pe aici ca cea mai buna combinatie ar fi aer-benzina amandoua de 180


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post 18 Dec 2005, 20:59
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Experimente care nu aduc nici un rezultat , doar strica! sleep.gif


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post 18 Dec 2005, 21:27
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mai detaliaza!ca sunt curios!


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post 19 Dec 2005, 00:06
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Yo nu inteleg de unde pana unde 180 cu 180!!???!?
Alea au si ele niste dimensiuni calculate,care mai depind si de emulsor si de conceptia carburatorului, centrator amestec, etc.
jiclor aer e maxim 170 la IRMA
jiclor principal este intre 135-140-145


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post 19 Dec 2005, 00:10
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Un experiment ar fi jiclor principal 145 de la IRM cu jiclor 145 de aer de la IRM 2AM
Daca cauti simetrie,? huh.gif huh.gif


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post 19 Dec 2005, 11:45
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Ydaniel stie ceva 180 cu 180 se pune pe Solexul vechi de r12.


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post 19 Dec 2005, 12:50
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QUOTE(mihai1677 @ 19 Dec 2005, 11:45)
Ydaniel stie ceva 180 cu 180 se pune pe Solexul vechi de r12.
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Dar ala e Solex si aveau consum putin mai mare.

Difuzorul nu ai cum sa-l modifici la Carfil, rezulta din turnare. Ori, sa faci prelucrari, e mai greu. Punind jicloare egale, trebuie modificata si "fintina" in plus rezulta amestec foarte bogat, mai mult risipa.
Eventual, daca vrei incearca dublucorp.

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post 19 Dec 2005, 17:00
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Uite de unde a avut ideea:
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If you can make new intake manifolds,mount anything from 32 mmm single barrel to 4 barels (twin double barrel carbs-see R12Gordini), like Solex 34PIC, 30CIC ,40DDHE, even a 4A1 can be tried,or Weber 32/38/40/42/45 DCOE, 38/42DCNF, 32DIR/DARA.(Carburettor replacements require a fair amount of experience in carb jetting, and complicated procedures). However,the simplest way is to rejet the existing carb,the Solex 32 EISA.After many tests , I recommend the following values: main jet 180, correction air jet 180(yes,the same value, for performance reasons,and allowing warmer plugs to be mounted), secondary jet 90, idle jet 40 or 42.5 , acceleration pump injector 30-35. Set the fuel level, adjust 12,7mm from the the carb lid to floater's mid ring. Adjust the acceleration pump so it can function throughout the entire rpm range(instead of cut at 2000rpm). (A very important part is a fuel filter before the fuel pump,and a fine particles filter before the carb,as rust or gasoline gums can obliterate the jets.Also wash the carb in special washer or 110octane fuel once a year-the brass jets and rubber parts in fuel only!).

http://www.abc.se/~katriina/r12tuning.htm
Doar ca era vorba de solex , nu de Weber.


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post 19 Dec 2005, 21:56
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nici vorba sa faci ceva prin lipire,astupare,etc.Nici vorba.Si nici alte modificari la jigloare.Doar sa te joci cu seturi dar tot nu stii ce iese.Mai bun pt performanta un dublu corp reglat la carfil bv.altfel iese o varza totala.


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post 20 Dec 2005, 09:55
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da,de acolo am avut ideea;am si scris mai sus!deci pana la urma?un dci nu?smile.gif


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post 20 Dec 2005, 10:08
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QUOTE(ydaniel @ 20 Dec 2005, 09:55)
da,de acolo am avut ideea;am si scris mai sus!deci pana la urma?un dci nu?smile.gif
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Cauta in documentaytia frantuzeasca pe care tiam dat-o !!!
Ai sa gasesti acolo functii interdependente cu TOATE jiglerele , deoarece daca modifici daor o partrte din ele ai un fiasco garantat !
Ori toate ori nimic , acesta este regula de baza a setului de jiglere !!!
180 cu 180 ? de ce nu 200 cu 200 sau mai bine 340 cu 420 ca sa ai SUPERPUTERE radmasa.gif


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post 20 Dec 2005, 12:10
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QUOTE(DodoBird @ 20 Dec 2005, 10:08)
Cauta in documentaytia frantuzeasca pe care tiam dat-o !!!
Ai sa gasesti acolo functii interdependente cu TOATE jiglerele , deoarece daca modifici daor o partrte din ele ai un fiasco garantat !
Ori toate ori nimic , acesta este regula de baza a setului de jiglere !!!
180 cu 180 ? de ce nu 200 cu 200 sau mai bine 340 cu 420 ca sa ai SUPERPUTERE  radmasa.gif
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te rog daca ai o documentatie pentru carburatoare solex sau weber trimitemi-o si mie. Sunt f interesat ce pot obtine dintr-un carfil 32 IRMA 2AM


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post 20 Dec 2005, 12:17
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Ce crezi tu ca poti obtine din marele 2AM huh.gif care are difuzor de 27 in loc de 25,5 si alt set de jicloare!!!
in rest este identic cu celelalte carfil 32
Documentatie foarte buna se gaseste in manualul "dacia 1300" si despre solex si weber, il gasiti pe hub uri romanesti

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post 20 Dec 2005, 12:59
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Mai repede 1 sau 2 Weber DCOE 45, jetuite pe un dinamometru. Dar timpul pe dinamometru costa.............


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post 20 Dec 2005, 17:33
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Pai cam cat e un DCOE si merge pe galeria de 1,4 sau numai pe aia de 1,6?smile.gif


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post 20 Dec 2005, 18:08
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Intreaba-l pe Ford_V6 ca e specialist in treburi din astea. Va trebui o flansa de adaptare.


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post 20 Dec 2005, 20:01
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QUOTE(einstein1984 @ 20 Dec 2005, 18:08)
Intreaba-l pe Ford_V6 ca e specialist in treburi din astea. Va trebui o flansa de adaptare.
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biggrin.gif mai bine zis o galerie cu totul pentru ca dcoe sunt orizontale

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post 20 Dec 2005, 20:21
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MAI BINE..................am ajuns de la 2 AM la basme!!


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