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soulraven
post 1 Jun 2008, 11:29
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salut, am o dilema, ieri in timp ce mai reglam pe la motor.....am avut o minune.....cand dadeam la cheie, nu foarte mult timp, ca am oprit imediat, motoru incepse sa mearga pe invers.....dar apoi cand am dat din nou la cheie a pornit normal si nu a mai facut scandal......aveti idee de ce?si cum asa ceva?


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salut, am o dilema, ieri in timp ce mai reglam pe la motor.....am avut o minune.....cand dadeam la cheie, nu foarte mult timp, ca am oprit imediat, motoru incepse sa mearga pe invers.....dar apoi cand am dat din nou la cheie a pornit normal si nu a mai facut scandal......aveti idee de ce?si cum asa ceva?
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post 1 Jun 2008, 11:35
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adica s-a invartit invers.....ventilatorul s-a invartit invers pur si simplu.....nu am mai tinut contactul apoi, adica sa fii fost vre-o 2-3 secunde.....dar dupa aceea si-a revenit


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post 1 Jun 2008, 11:43
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sincer nu vad cu ti s-o invartit invers motorul. fiindca electromotorul se invarte numai intr-un sens, si in cazul in care s-ar invarti electromotorul invers, bendixul nu ar putea invarti coroana dry.gif


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post 1 Jun 2008, 11:49
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nu stiu, dar s-a intamplat


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post 1 Jun 2008, 13:29
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Esti sigur ca nu a fost o iluzie optica? Uneori la o turatie ai impresia ca se invarte invers...


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post 1 Jun 2008, 13:34
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nu sunt nebun la cap.....ce facusem in ziua respectiva exact......reglat de culbutori, schimbat capac delcou si cand am dat la cheie atunci, uitasem sa conectez furtunul care din galerie in carburator(cel cu plasticul ala in el cu gaurica)


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post 1 Jun 2008, 13:49
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Se mai intimpla sa o ia invers si este un fenomen periculos pentru motor.Probabil din cauza avanului prea mare.


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post 1 Jun 2008, 13:51
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nu am tinut mai mult de 2-3 secunde, pentru ca facut si urat, dar apoi am vauzt ca si-a revenit si ca nu are sunete suspecte, ce ar putea sa pateasca in cel mai rau caz?


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post 1 Jun 2008, 14:32
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Ai bagat gazolina in rezervor?


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post 1 Jun 2008, 14:45
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nu are cum sa functioneze invers, daca se invarte invers admisia se face de pe evacuare si evacuarea se face pe admisie asa ca..


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post 1 Jun 2008, 14:47
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nu, de unde draq gazolina......smile.gif)


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post 1 Jun 2008, 16:43
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Am intrebat pt ca am vazut o faza ca asta la o masina ce mergea cu gazolina... Cica face autoaprindere, o chestie necontrolata.


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post 1 Jun 2008, 16:55
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am auzit si eu fenomanul asta la o dacie din '86, batranul jura pe orice,....incerc sa dau seama din ce cauza...


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post 1 Jun 2008, 16:58
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am folosit eu gasolina in combinatie cu benzina normala si nu va sfatuiesc si pe voi sa faceti asta. In primul rand puterea motorului mi-a scazut dramatic. In al doilea rand motorul facea un zgomot infernal ca un diesel stricat. Iar in al 3lea rand motorul nu se mai oprea daca luam contactul.(aici cred ca intervenea fenomenul de autoaprindere).


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post 1 Jun 2008, 17:01
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faza cu gazolina e altceva .....se provoaca autoaprindere ,desi tu il opresti din contact el tot merge ca sa-l opresti bagi in viteze si iei brusc piciorul dupa ambreiaj ,dar asta e o alta poveste ,nicidecum bagatul gazolinei nu poate sa faca un motor sa mearga in sens invers wacko.gif


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post 1 Jun 2008, 17:31
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de mers invers nici o sansa din cauza distributiei.Mai curand iluzie optica.
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LE daca se invarte invers scanteia este data mult dupa PMS asa ca nici o sansa sa mearga

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post 1 Jun 2008, 18:14
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nu are treaba furtunul cu diuza cu ce ti s-a intamplat tie... daca il scoti p-ala nu iti tine ralantiul... trebuie sa-l tii peste 2000 de ture ca sa mearga


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post 1 Jun 2008, 18:22
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am vauzt si eu asta:P......


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post 1 Jun 2008, 18:31
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QUOTE(soulraven @ 1 Jun 2008, 13:34)
nu sunt nebun la cap.....ce facusem in ziua respectiva exact......reglat de culbutori, schimbat capac delcou si cand am dat la cheie atunci, uitasem sa conectez furtunul care din galerie in carburator(cel cu plasticul ala in el cu gaurica)
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Cred ca in afara de tot ce ai facut ai mai tras si la masea altfel nu se explica......


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post 1 Jun 2008, 18:37
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post 1 Jun 2008, 18:45
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e posibil sa fi fost o iluzie optica.cel mai elocvent exemplu de asemanare este acela cand privesti o masina in mers care are jante de aliaj cu un model cu spite.la o anumita viteza ai impresia ca rotile merg inapoi.am observat asta de mai multe ori.

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post 1 Jun 2008, 19:06
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Ca sa oprsti un motor pe gazonina trebuie taiata inalta scantee de la bobina de inductie altfel tot produce energie chiar daca se loa contactul . Un prieten baga gazolina si facuse un comutator cu un bec de 20W/12v si cu el se punea la la caroserie inata tensiune prin comutator. Daca se modifica pistoanele ai motor competitiv pe gazolina , multi trecusera pe gazolina in zonele petrolifere .


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post 1 Jun 2008, 19:21
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e mai ieftina gazolina?


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post 1 Jun 2008, 19:26
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Daca si gasesti ...doar ca sa iti tina motorul trebuie pistonele modificate ...

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post 1 Jun 2008, 20:02
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asa ceva nu am mai auzit si nici nu cred sa vad vreodata. De ce nu ai dat o tura?


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post 2 Jun 2008, 07:13
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Gazolina este mult mai ieftina..Cand am cumparat eu am cumparat cu 1,5 RON litrul. Acum depinde unde gasesti si la cine. Desi e f ieftina chiar nu se merita. Modificarea care trebuie facuta la pistoane este acea de a le scobi, capul sa fie concav pt a mari camera de combustie deorece valoare energetica a gazolinei e mult sub cea benzinei. In plus are un miros groaznic iar motorul face cam urat. Acum vin cu alta intrebare: De ce nu trece industria auto pe etanol? se poate produce destul de usor cu costuri mici, e cu 10% mai eficient decat benzina si nu polueaza deloc....


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post 2 Jun 2008, 07:15
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nu mai era un topic identic de curand p'aici? parca i se mai invartea la unul invers...


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post 2 Jun 2008, 07:19
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argon tu esti mai trecut prin viata:D....tu ce zici?


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