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post 14 Feb 2012, 12:50
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Salut all
a"m have problem 4wdLock to 2wd
Promleme have all Duster - Ukraine forume.

Pleas Help as!

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post 14 Feb 2012, 13:40
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4WD Lock mode is turned off in the winter.
Connected as a whole - with the movement in reverse on snow and ice. While turning off the ignition can be treated and its subsequent inclusion of the problem is not frequent.


I think that this is a problem with ETC computer or electromagnetic coupling.
Go to local dealer!

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post 14 Feb 2012, 13:49
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More than 20 end 30 Duster 4WD in Ukraine - have such problem.
Local dealer - nothing does!

Duster in RO - have this problem?
* Disconnecting 4WD to 2WD - can take place at any moment - in winter

Help all please!

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post 14 Feb 2012, 14:45
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Some of them reported the same issues. In your first picture is signaled another electric/electronic issue. Shut down the engine, wait a little and restart it should do the trick. Anyway, if the engine is cold, this issue has more chances to appear.
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post 14 Feb 2012, 15:02
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Ala e beculetul care sa aprins si la mine cand am fortat cuplajul.


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post 14 Feb 2012, 16:25
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Multumesc pentrusugestie .
Sunt sigur că - în scris descrierea și nu sunt importante , o traducere literală .
Dacă aveți nimic de adăugat că nu va scrie pe acest forum .
Îmi pare rău că ați ofensat !
Am crezut că se poate spune - dacă aveți astfel de probleme .


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post 14 Feb 2012, 16:56
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Hello Spirt,
Please do not use automatic translation, it doesn't work fine.
Relax, nobody feels offended.
Try to write in English or French.
Some people have reported electromagnetic coupling problems in .ro under heavy towing while climbing hills. The solution is simple: don't tow too hard too long.
Some people have reported also problems in low temperature -15..-10 C on startup, when the coupling doesn't engage. No solution has been provided yet.


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post 14 Feb 2012, 18:25
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Spirt-UA, которых условиях, когда происходит ошибка? скорости 0 км / ч? nedumerire.gif


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post 14 Feb 2012, 18:26
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I had also the same problem but when I was pulling another car on a hill.


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post 14 Feb 2012, 20:13
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Salut all smile.gif
Problem - takes place on small speeds (5km.h). On including of reverse gear - winter (season).
My English very bad - and Romanian I do not know. sad.gif
However I am thankful you - all answers.
Some information - I got, I have! (Multimesk)

Ukraine - have the same answers to local dealer - (to: "dizzy")

1.Romanian club duster - calmly behaves to this question smile.gif
2.Ukrainian club duster - have panic concerning this problem sad.gif but more than 30 cars have 4WDLock OFF
3. Also this problem arises up at motion on an asphalt with snow (AUTO end 4WDlock - off to 2 WD + icon) - speed have 40-60km.h

* 4WD - off, problems - must not be!!!

End very badly that Romanian club Duster - do not apply through this question to "local dealer" and Renault France.

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Ukrainians "local dealer" do not know the decision of question too smile.gif
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post 14 Feb 2012, 21:11
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Problem - takes place on small speeds (5km.h).

Watching the movie posted on Youtube (dashboard: engine speed vs. vehicle speed) and your information above, I think that is a normal thing to do for ETC who is in permanent communication with ECM.

When you are in 4WD-LOCK MODE, if the vehicle speed is not raised proportional with the engine speed (that means that you are stocked in a mud/snow/etc. - no grip frustrat.gif and ASR occurs), after a while, your electromagnetic coupling is overheating; this is the moment (an offset predefined in the soft of the ETC computer) when ETC computer is passing from 4WD-LOCK MODE to 2WD MODE in order to protect the transmission.


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post 14 Feb 2012, 21:28
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QUOTE(P-A-C-O @ 14 Feb 2012, 23:11)
Watching the movie posted on Youtube (dashboard: engine speed vs. vehicle speed) and your information above, I think that is a normal thing to do for ETC who is in permanent communication with ECM.

When you are in 4WD-LOCK MODE, if the vehicle speed is not raised proportional with the engine speed (that means that you are stocked in a mud/snow/etc. - no grip  frustrat.gif and ASR occurs), after a while, your electromagnetic coupling is overheating; this is the moment (an offset predefined in the soft of the ETC computer) when ETC computer is passing from 4WD-LOCK MODE to 2WD MODE in order to protect the transmission.
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It as an example. (1 post)
Problems are on different speeds and on the different models (AUTO end 4WD)
Thank you but this theory we already discussed in Ukraine club.

In this case Renault France - must give a concrete answer, but he - is not.
More appeals, are needed - many are people afraid to talk about it!

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Were there appeals for the Romanian people (Duster club RO) - on this question to local dealer end Renault RO end Renault France?
If no, then why?
Senks all. smile.gif

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post 14 Feb 2012, 21:41
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maybe you'll find here the "problem" laugh.gif

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Hint: use your "Duster User Manual" that you received with the car if you don't understand french wink.gif


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post 15 Feb 2012, 10:12
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Daca scrie in manual ca e normala trecerea automata la 2wd, atunci renault sunt acoperiti.

Vorba lui paco: cititi manualul.


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post 15 Feb 2012, 11:08
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QUOTE(P-A-C-O @ 14 Feb 2012, 23:41)
maybe you'll find here the "problem"  laugh.gif

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Hint: use your "Duster User Manual" that you received with the car if you don't understand french  wink.gif
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Problema nu este în - 100%
Manual , am studiat!!!!!!!!!!!!
Problema poate fi eliminat - în cazul în care motorul este oprit.
Acest lucru nu de ieșire to probleme.

1. Statistici (RO Duster) - putine masini
2. Statistici (UA Duster) - mai mult de 30 de autoturisme

Cum poate fi aceasta ? huh.gif




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Am gasit pentru voi toți - este confirmarea

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post 15 Feb 2012, 22:57
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[...] from an older post in Duster section:

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post 16 Feb 2012, 09:36
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QUOTE(P-A-C-O @ 16 Feb 2012, 00:57)
[...] from an older post in Duster section:

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post 17 Feb 2012, 08:25
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It explains the internal behaviour of 4WD system.


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post 17 Feb 2012, 10:32
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Buna ziua. Problema cunoscuta de ei. Dar din pacate nici o rezolvare. Am reclamat acesta problema in service. Raspuns clar ”nu stiu sa merg pe 4x4”. Singura rezolvare repornire motor.


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Raspuns clar ”nu stiu sa merg pe 4x4”. Singura rezolvare repornire motor
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Îmi pare rău - în limba rusă

Я в пятницу был у официального диллера там присутствовали представители РЕНО УКРАИНА.

При том, что я сейчас поменял ризину и поставил летнюю - хотя у нас еще много снега.

Все вместе мы поехали воспроизводить ошибку - дорога была ЛЕД + СНЕГ, летняя резина вела себя очень хорошо, как я не пытался вызвать ошибку отключения 4WD - Off у меня не получилось.

Поднимался на заснеженную гору, передним + задним ходом, буксовал в снегу. Муфту перегреть не удалось...

В итоге - сняли старую ошибку!!!

Отключение - происходит при морозе (-15, - 25С) градусов цельсия. При потеплении - вызвать ошибку самопроизвольно не удаеться!
Решение для всех - ездить на AUTO режиме.


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QUOTE(Spirt-UA @ 5 Mar 2012, 10:16)
Решение для всех  - ездить на AUTO режиме.

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