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Mi-am gasit de lucru. Trebuie sa caut acum si alifia Beru ...


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Eu mi-am luat vaselina de baterie de la Norauto. Merge si la bujii si o seringa este 10 lei.


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post 15 Jun 2011, 08:02
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Mi-am gasit de lucru. Trebuie sa caut acum si alifia Beru ...
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Poti da mai multe detalii despre fise, eventual vreun cod?


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post 15 Jun 2011, 08:11
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post 15 Jun 2011, 09:53
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Am vazut pe o vaselina siliconica de aia alba pentru radiatorul de la procesoare o rigiditate dielectrica de 25kV/cm. Oare nu merge si la fise?


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post 15 Jun 2011, 10:10
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Pana acum am folosit numai unsoare Beru dupa ce in prealabil am curatat "contactele" fiselor.... inca de la primul set de bujii schimbate am fost urat impresionat la reprezentanta ( nu numai ca nu au pus dar au si facut haz-tipic unor romani wink.gif ) si am cautat pe cont propiu- la particular pt 21-24 de lei eu zic ca se merita......

@Ironick : inca un set de UXT1? inseamna ca esti ff multumit de ele....am pus acum o sapt la cealalta (16V) si merg destul de bine.....totusi pe ture mari parca raspund mai lent ca Champion....
Chiar sunt curios cu Tesla....sunt sanse mai mari sa nu fie contrafacute ( si deci sa functioneze mai bine ) decat cele de "firme" renumite ....

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Prin energetica in kit-urile de lipire pentru cablurile de inalta parca erau niste recipiente cu vaselina rezistenta daca imi amintesc bine.


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post 20 Jun 2011, 10:07
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Am vazut pe o vaselina siliconica de aia alba pentru radiatorul de la procesoare o rigiditate dielectrica de 25kV/cm. Oare nu merge si la fise?
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de aia am pus eu si merge !!!


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post 20 Jun 2011, 22:16
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Ce caracteristici are vaselina asta siliconica ?


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post 20 Jun 2011, 22:19
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in general conduce caldura,nu permite condens...o mai fi avand laugh.gif ....eu de aia am pus-o....ca sa nu se faca condens pe la fise ! pana acum nimic suspect !

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post 20 Jun 2011, 22:34
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Si impiedica "scaparile" pe langa fisa ( electroizolanta- conform Beru )


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post 20 Jun 2011, 23:59
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a mea nu e de la Beru...e ceva....no name smile.gif ...da' merge ! smile.gif


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post 21 Jun 2011, 07:34
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Mai, de cand discutam de vaselina aia parca stabilisem ca trebuie sa fie "silicone free", ca sa nu strice cauciucul fiselor.
Cel putin asa se agita Dacia, a lor este fluorata.


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post 21 Jun 2011, 12:38
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Am intrebat de caracteristici pentru ca aud electricienii de la munca ca folosesc vaselina siliconica la diverse componente si poate le ceream ambalajul sa citesc utilizarile, eventual luam si vreo doua-trei dejte pentru mandea.
In alta ordine de idei, am vazut ca pe la magazinele de calculatoare se gasesc niste siringi cu vaselina pentru procesoare, vad ca unii spun ca ar merge.

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post 21 Jun 2011, 13:13
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Vezi ca la bujii rolul vaselinei este sa conduca curentul electric.

La procesoare acea vaselina NU conduce curentul electric.

"Ie vaseline si vaseline ..."


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post 21 Jun 2011, 21:57
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iote de aia de procesor am pus si n-are nici pe naiba....si uite-asa o las pana schimb bujiile peste vreo 20k km....a mers asa asta iarna,merge ok si acum,nu intrerupe(cel putin deocamdata laugh.gif )....macar nu se face condens acolo in zilele cu ploaie rolleyes.gif

LE curentul oricum e "condus" bine...contactul dintre fisa si bujie este destul de ferm !

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post 21 Jun 2011, 23:39
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Vezi ca la bujii rolul vaselinei este sa conduca curentul electric.
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Serios? Unde sa-l conduca?
Hai sa-ti arat despre ce vorbim.

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post 22 Jun 2011, 07:01
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HSBP ce exprimare la astia din poza de mai sus: "Demontati obligatoriu un cordon de unsoare ..."


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post 22 Jun 2011, 07:03
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Serios? Unde sa-l conduca?
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vi_escu, scuze dar esti un pic pe langa. Vaselina aia se pune sa conduca curentul intre fisa si bujie, sa nu exista intruperi, contact imperfect sau umezeala.


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post 22 Jun 2011, 07:22
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Mai uite-te odata la poza. Se pune pe capatul mansonului sa nu intre umezeala la contactul dintre bujie si partea conductoare a fisei. Daca vazelina aia ar conduce, scanteia s-ar duce la masa in exteriorul bujiei.


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post 22 Jun 2011, 08:14
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Beru spark plug adapter grease ZKF 01 (far right), applied in a thin coat to the insulator, facilitates removing the plug, protects it against damage, and prevents the penetration of water and corrosion of the contact points.

The spark plug adapter grease (ZKF 01) from BERU provides effective prevention against repeated sticking. Apply a thin coat to the insulator while fitting the plugs. BERU spark plug adapter grease not only facilitates dismantling the plug, it also prevents the penetration of moisture and corrosion of the contact points.


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post 22 Jun 2011, 08:26
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Spark plug connector grease (ZKF 001) helps avoid voltage flashovers

Problem: After replacing the spark plugs, misfiring occurs intermittently – across the entire speed range. This is caused by voltage flashovers on the spark plug neck, which in turn are down to leaking or embrittled spark plug connectors.

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Solution: Before changing a spark plug (smooth or grooved), coat the spark plug neck sparingly with BERU special grease. Important: Always check the spark plug connector and, if required, replace. With regard to single and double-spark ignition coils with mounted plugs, in particular, it is advisable to replace the plugs along with the spark plugs – as the latter frequently become embrittled in the spark plug's sealing area and as a result start to leak


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post 22 Jun 2011, 09:42
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Atunci inseamna ca m-am inselat. biggrin.gif

Daca se pune pe ceramica nu are ce sa conduca.

Eu am avut impresia ca am gasit unsoare pe capul metalic, dar cred ca era de la atingerea la scoatere.


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QUOTE(IRONICK @ 15 Jun 2011, 09:11)
T930S

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nu te tin mai mult de 2 ani ... se mareste rezistenta interna , am avut pe 1310.


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Am schimbat bujiile in reteaua Dacia zilele trecute ( piese de origine -fabricate in Mexic!!!)
Am mers cu cele vechi 32000 km si masina pornea la prima cheie ,
dar cred ca ajunge(in plus plec si in concediu cu masina...)
Pretul actual e de 94 RON (bujiile ,manopera ,tva)
Am gasit prin magazine si seturi de 4 bucati cu 21 RON , dar nu cred ca merita riscul...


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nu merita riscul de ce? ca se strica?

Pe mine m-au costa 10e la masina din semnatura, Bosch (Made in Germany) cu 4 electrozi. De schimbat le-am schimbat singur ca nu e mare smecherie.

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As vrea sa schimb bujiile care sunt renault 1 electrod ...masina merge excelent am facut cu aceste bujii pina acum 20.000 km...o singura chestie face ...din cand in cand nu o ia la sfert de cheie dar cred ca este din cauza mersului prin oras ...subturata.

As vrea sa va intreb trebuie sa folosesc neaparat vaselina ? sau le pot pune si fara ...din ce imi amintesc cind am facut schimbul la 33.000 km nu mi-au pus nimic cei din service .

Ce bujii imi recomandati in limita a 50-60 de ron ...

Am vazut niste bujii la Carrefour ...Brisk ...stiti ceva de ele sunt bune ?
Dupa schimbarea bujiilor multi au spus ca le-a scazut consumul ...este adevarat sau este poveste ?...eu am Logan ambiance si nu am calculator sofisticat ca la celelalte tipuri , nu imi da consumul.

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post 19 Jul 2011, 21:13
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As vrea sa schimb bujiile care sunt renault 1 electrod ...masina merge excelent
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Pe principiul lui Murphy - daca ceva merge bine , nul schimba- poti sa folosesti in continuare bujii renault .....daca porneste greu nu e neaparat de la bujii ( sa mai discutat pe aici , nu gasesc link)
Daca vrei altceva , in primul rand ( si cel mai important !!! ) ai grija de unde cumperi - adica sa nu fie contrafacut - altfel va consuma mai mult, va accelera un pic mai greu, "innegrit" evacuarea etc etc........
Personal din ce am experimentat pana acum , champion ( cele recomandate de producator sau chiar EON1) sau Beru ( UXT1 care le folosesc la un 16v ) mi sau parut bune ( dpdv al consumului Champion iti va lua cam cu 0.5 l mai mult ca Beru , beru au consumul apropiat de cele de fabrica - in fond eyquem e tot de-al lor ).....


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ma gandeam sa incerc Renault cu 2 electrozi .... pina acum tot ce am luat consumabile am luat din carrfour si din Vitan ... si s-au dovedit fiabile .
Nu aveau unele holograma aia de dacia ...dar nici cand am schimbat pompa de apa la service cu pompa lor si setul cumparat din vitan ....pompa nu avea holograma ...asa ca facaturi sunt peste tot.

Nu mai stiu ce bujii am avut din fabrica ...loganul meu e din 2005. stie cineva ?

Cu vaselina este obligatoriu ?

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La fata locului era leopardul ....adica am bujii renault ...retineti renault ...spun asta ca sunt uni care spun ca nu exista ...renault cu 2 craci radmasa.gif fisele .... Beru.

Am scos bujiile care aratau putin aurii ...ca; culoare fara depuneri ...ultima fiind doar putin mai afumata si cu o relativa depunere ... le-am curatat .... apoi le-am spalat cu niste alcool tehnic de 90 ....numai partea cu electrodul ...montat inapoi ....nici o diferenta ...poate doar in creierul meu ca ar trage altfel . radmasa.gif
Am 20.000 km si cca 3 ani cu bujiile astea .... foarte multumit de ele....si de altfel ce toata masina care se comporta excelent atit cu piese de origine cit si cu piese de origine din vitan .....km parcursi 52.000 km
uitam ...si mecanicul si-a facut treaba ..aveam vaselina in capul bujiilor.

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