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post 8 May 2011, 13:31
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Vreau sa scot capacul de la pompa de apa.
Nu reusesc sa scot elicea aia de plastic( dacia break 1996).
Elicea aia se scoate cu fulie cu tot sau se scoate elicea si apoi fulia?
Am citit ca se desfac suruburile alea de pe fulie cu tubulara si crichet...de 12 sau de 13 , ca sa stiu ce piese am nevoie?
E obligaoriu sa dau radiatorul jos?
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post 8 May 2011, 13:55
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elicea de plastic are 4 suruburi de 12(nu sunt sigur). se poate desface si cu radiatorul pus. dupa aceea ajungi la suruburile de la capacul pompei de apa(suruburi cu cap de 10). sa ai grija cu astea ca se pot rupe usor in chiuloasa. pentru capacul pompei de apa e de preferat sa ai radiatorul dat jos sa ajungi usor la suruburi.

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eu am procedat astfel...aveam doar cheie de 13 tubulara..sa pot da jos fulia + elicea ca amandoua sunt prinse in alea 4 suruburi...am dat radiatorul..apoi se demonteaza super usor


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post 8 May 2011, 18:47
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Am si eu o nelamurire.In poza se poate observa cum sta cureaua? Dar din ce cauza sta asa ?mersi

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post 8 May 2011, 20:07
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post 8 May 2011, 20:08
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Parca atinge in gmv.
eu asa am patit cand aveam suportul la motor rupt.


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post 8 May 2011, 20:09
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da si tu detalii mai multe,ca baietii clarvazatori sunt in vacanta

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ydaniel ce treaba are suportu motor cu cureaua de la pompa de apa?? nu stiu
daca atinge in ELV e fulia de la pompa de apa mica,sau cureaua de 1200,in loc de 1218

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post 8 May 2011, 20:14
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Cureaua nu e dreapta in linie.Sta in diagonala aproximativ.
Dar de la ce? Recent au fost schimbate : corp pompa apa Asam+capac pompa apa autospeed. Oare de la piesele schimbate.


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post 8 May 2011, 20:16
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De la pompa de apa, nu respecta cotele.


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post 8 May 2011, 20:19
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ceva este stramb,fulia pompei de apa,suportu unde se prinde fulia sau chiar capacul pompei
da cureaua jos invarte cu mana de fulie si vezi ce este stramb


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post 8 May 2011, 20:22
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eu am avut GMV+fulie mica pompa de apa,fulie de oltcit la alternator si curea de 1175.
Sa nu fie cumva stramb suportul alternatorului(cel lung)sau rulmentii de la pompa de apa.


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post 8 May 2011, 20:26
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Scoate si tu saibele dintre fulie si suportul acesteia, dar scurteza-le apoi, ca vor freca in pompa.

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post 8 May 2011, 20:57
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O sa verific suportul alternatorului.Dar am impresia ca e de la pompa de apa.
De vreo 4000 km merg asa cu ea.

8 May 2011, 21:03:
Fulia pompei de apa nu e stramba chiar rau. Fulia asta o am pe masina de 2 ani.
Decand am schimbat pompa de apa cu tot cu corp, am probleme.


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post 8 May 2011, 21:08
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corpu pompei sa nu fie deformat ca ai pus de asam,cel mai prost producator de piese auto,cum or fi obtinut autorizare RAR?

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post 8 May 2011, 21:12
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Tot ce este posibil doar este de Asam si produs in china . biggrin.gif .


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post 8 May 2011, 21:14
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asam are sediu si puntcu de lucru la Iasi http://www.asam.ro/despre/4/Locatie.html dale telefon si multumestele de piesele facute


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post 8 May 2011, 21:14
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post 8 May 2011, 21:16
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degeaba arata frumos daca este de o calitate indoielnica adica,,,prost,,,si nu respecta cotele date de proiectant


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post 8 May 2011, 21:29
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O sa verifc maine. Daca e de la pompa de apa asa moare.Nu o mai dau jos pompa de apa.
Problema e ca in magazine, aproximativ numa Asam si Autospeed gasesti.
Ce mai gasesti uitate prin magazine sunt foarte scumpe.Cum am gasit eu: un capac de pompa de apa in amblaj de uzina 140 roni.Pai taicamiu la golf 3 tdi a dat 80 lei pe pompa de apa, ceva nemtesc "RUVILLE".
Si eu pe corp am dat 50 lei si pe capac 60.

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post 8 May 2011, 21:33
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Eu nu inteleg de ce nu incercati capace sh,eu am pus corp si capac sh de uzina ,luate din targ ,apoi am bagat antigel ,un an cat am mai tinut-o in circulatie nici cea mai mica problema la pompa si acum ca a mai trecut inca un an si ceva de cand zace in curte dacia are inca antigelul in ea si nimic la pompa ,nu pic de joc ,nu picura ,absolut nicio problema ,costul la mine pe vremea aia a fost de 20 de lei

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post 8 May 2011, 22:45
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QUOTE(paul-tm @ 8 May 2011, 21:29)
Problema e ca in magazine, aproximativ numa  Asam si Autospeed gasesti.

Gasesti orice:
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2.GGT PA10123-referinta BUGATTI PA174
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3.GMB
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4.GP PA-188
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5.QUINTON HAZELL QCP
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6.SKF
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7.SUIT PN WP769
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Sau daca vrei,iei pompa intreaga:GP PA-1885
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post 9 May 2011, 14:37
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bun, si acuma zi si ce pret au astea


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post 9 May 2011, 18:59
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Am reusit sa scot capacul de pompa de apa.
As face o tentativa sa-l repar eu pe acesta cu rulmenti si presatupa noi.
Am vreo sansa sa scot axul ala?Stie cineva vreo smecherie?


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post 9 May 2011, 20:52
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Suportul fuliei parca se scotea la cald. Daca poti sa-l bagi mai in interior pe ax fara sa atinga sar putea sa se alinieze fulia pompei cu cea de la alternator daca nu vezi unde e problema, poate e mai gros suportul.


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post 9 May 2011, 21:15
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QUOTE(ghitza @ 9 May 2011, 14:37)
bun, si acuma zi si ce pret au astea
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Mai conteaza?Omul se plangea ca nu gaseste decat de ASAM! smile.gif


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post 13 May 2011, 21:53
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capac pompa apa am cumparat de la Unix, Dolz injur de 90 lei


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post 15 May 2011, 19:21
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Vedeti?Gasim orice,bani sa fie! smile.gif
Cataline,poti pune,te rog frumos niste imagini cu pompa ta?Sa cuprinda si reperele fabricantului.Multumesc.


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post 15 May 2011, 21:13
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Am depistat problema, era fulia de la pompa de apa.Sunt mai multe modele: mai bombate sau mai putin bombate. La cate srl-uri fac piese in ziua de azi.
Oricum din partea mea sa dea faliment o data Asamu, si toate Srl-urile care isi bat joc de bani nostri, de masiniile nostre si de siguranta circulatiei.
Probleme:
-capac pompa apa autospeed nou-cu joc in rulment de nou si o gaura care nu fost data bine
-corp pompa apa asam material foarte slab- cand am schimbat capacu de autospeed cu unu de master sau distrus 2 filete
-capac pompa apa master - cu joc in rulment dupa 10 minute de functionare;
Am vazut la masini straine pompe de apa cu 200000 km si nu aveau deloc joc in rulment.

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acesta ar fi capacul pompa apa Dolz

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post 17 May 2011, 15:18
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Kataline,multumesc pentru imagine! smile.gif

Paule,de ce ai dat bani pe prostii si chinezarii gen ASAM,AUTOSPEED?Nu vreau sa te cert dar daca te duceai la un magazin cu piese auto straine gaseai pompe de Renault 12 mult mai bune decat chinezariile alea!Cum a facut Katalin:DOLZ!
Am postat si eu niste imagini ,mai sus,cu pompe straineze de Renault 12,compatibile Daciei.


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