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post 4 Jan 2008, 21:24
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Caut de cumparat ceva gen fumigena sau lacrimogene.
As vrea ceva ce nu se ridica prea repede si care sta acolo, adica nu se ridica in sus.
Ceva persistent adica.

Credeti ca ma puteti ajuta?
Poate chiar niste sulf ars de exemplu.... De unde iau asfel de sulf? Sau ceva fiole....


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post 4 Jan 2008, 21:26
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magazinul bruno, intre unirea si universitate, undeva pe stanga. Are spray-uri si fiole care put ingrozitor.


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post 4 Jan 2008, 21:43
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post 4 Jan 2008, 21:47
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M-am gandit la Bruno... dar sunt cantitati mici acolo, doar pentru "one-time_use". As vrea ceva mai sanatos, pt utilizari multiple. smile.gif
Cred ca erau la farmacie niste chestii.... cand le combinai iesea jale.
Va rog mult sa nu faceti mistouri, nu intrebati la ce imi trebuie, si sa nu deviati de la subiect.
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post 4 Jan 2008, 21:47
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probabil i-a parcat careva pe locul proaspat dezapezit smile.gif
right ?


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post 5 Jan 2008, 14:36
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dar zi frate ce planuri diabolice ai . poate avem si noi probleme la fel ca tine si ne vii in intampinare cu niste idei misto.
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post 5 Jan 2008, 14:47
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Daca nu ne zici, nci noi nu-ti spunem! 10561582.gif


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post 5 Jan 2008, 19:38
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C*c*t - pute groaznic, scarbos, nu se ridica singur.

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post 5 Jan 2008, 23:17
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A citit bancul ala ... Vrea sa-si dea demisia, clar. Cu stil.


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post 5 Jan 2008, 23:34
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@i96nds, da' pe cine vrei sa "aranjezi" ... si de ce?


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post 5 Jan 2008, 23:43
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QUOTE(i96nds @ 4 Jan 2008, 21:47)
Va rog mult sa nu faceti mistouri, nu intrebati la ce imi trebuie, si sa nu deviati de la subiect.
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post 5 Jan 2008, 23:52
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Verde de Paris. Mai greu de gasit dar pute de te omoara de-a dreptul. Ceva sa puta mai rau nu am mirosit pana acum.


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post 5 Jan 2008, 23:56
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Si cum de mai traiesti?


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post 6 Jan 2008, 00:06
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QUOTE(Laurentziu83 @ 5 Jan 2008, 19:38)
C*c*t - pute groaznic, scarbos, nu se ridica singur.
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post 6 Jan 2008, 00:06
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Am deschis repede geamul si usa sa se faca curent. Bad mistake insa, era sa omor tot caminul biggrin.gif.


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post 6 Jan 2008, 01:20
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niste peste crud, strategic amplasat.

tot asa de one time use only, se face asa:
sulf+fier (pilitura), le amesteci asa la ochi sa iasa omogena treaba (sunt prafuri amandoua), si apoi le bagi in lingura, polonic, cazan sau depinde cat vrei sa faci si le dai foc, o sa ia foc de la sine sulful si se va forma sulfura de fier, adica FeS , (mai exact formeaza un ceva, ca si consistenta e tare, structura tip burete, se sfarama daca insisti, negr-maro la culoare). Iei bucata de FeS rezultat de acolo fara pilituri de Fe nereactionate and stuff.
apoi te duci pe la chimicale si cauti un acid clorhidric, nu conteaza cat de concentrat sau diluat(se gaseste destul de usor, si e ieftin).
in momentu decisiv scoti bucatica/caramida/blocu de FeS il bagi intr-un recipient proportional cu dimensiunea lui, si torni peste acid clorhidric, binenteles proportional (preferabil stoichiometric) cu bucata de FeS care o reactioneazi.
pe scurt se obtine H2S acid sulfhidric care pute precum un ou clocit sau vreo ba$ina autentica.

cu chimie de clasa a 7-ea iti zic asa:
S+Fe+temp=FeS (1)
FeS+2HCl=FeCl2+H2S (2)
Desigur si daca le masori pe balanta analitica nu ies chiar asa ca tot in (1)+temp se mai intampla si
S+O2=SO2

pe scurt grosso modo asa la ochi daca tu in comert gasesti HCl concentratie 36.5% (asa e deobicei ala concentrat, peste valoarea asta devine gaz) pai ar trebui sa pui de vreo 3ori mai mult HCl decat FeS

reteta:
obtii 100grame de FeS + 300grame (~300ml)HCl (36.5%)=>~40grame de H2S d-asta care pute si care gaz. (asta la ochi, doar sa fi sigur ca ai pus mai mult HCl sa reactioneaze tot FeS
40grame de gaz inlocuid in P*V=miu*R*T, rezulta vreo ~25Litrii de H2S de concentratie 100%, care se vor dilua in volumul camerei in care va sta.

in concentratii mari poate fi toxic, ca o gluma, sa nu depasesti mai mult de 25 de grame de FeS

Eu faceam glume dianstea prin grenerala si mai salvam din ore, ca nu se putea sta de miros (da si veneam cu caramizi prepareate de acasa de asa ceva, si bidoane de hcl, eram mainiac biggrin.gif, dar si volumul in care se "dilua" era mult mai mare, ca banuiesc ca nu vrei faci dinastea intr-o hala sau hangar)

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post 6 Jan 2008, 10:03
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Super!
Si de unde gasesc sulf? Dar pilitura de fier? Cu fierul e mai simplu, iau la flex o bucata de tzeava ceva... Dar sulful ?
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post 6 Jan 2008, 11:44
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QUOTE(i96nds @ 6 Jan 2008, 10:03)
Dar pilitura de fier?

Aia o gasesti la probleme tehnice la dci biggrin.gif


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post 6 Jan 2008, 13:01
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sulful, precum si fierul se gasesc pe la chimicale (unde gasesti si acidu clorhidric) .. toate 3 au aplicatii sa zicem de home-use, asa ca nu sunt probleme in gasire.

Fierul as in Fer (elementu chimic) nu e tot aia cu o bucata de tzeava de fonta, otel sau altceva.(chestia aia are si carbon pur, si carburi de fier, cu polizoru obtii aschii incinse de fier care ard in aer si obti oxizi de fier. tocma ca sulf gasesti prin clubu de pasionati ai vinului. Cu sulf se stopeaza fermentatia, asa ca sulfu e usor de gasit, nu stiu cu fer-ul cum e, mai ales ca trebuie pilitura (altfel nu poti sa il amesteci, si cand dai foc la "amestecul" neomogen, va arde suful si atata, nu se formeaza prea mult FeS)

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post 7 Jan 2008, 08:51
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iei o minge de ping-pong, o tai in 3-4 bucati, pe care le invelesti in staniol, si dai foc pe la colturi(stai linistit ca nu arde cu flacara deschisa), si o sa iasa un fum de nu o sa poti sta cu ochii deschisi, plus mirosul inecacios. Cand eram mic puneam asa ceva in lifturi si in sala de clasa, unde 2-3 ore nu se mai puteau desfasura cursuri 04.gif

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post 7 Jan 2008, 09:18
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sau din rama de ochelari ai bunicii. care e dintr-o rasina. o invelesti in staniol<de la ciocolata poiana sau milka> si-i dai foc la un capat. si ai facut o fumigena care pute mai rau ca mingea de pingpong.



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post 7 Jan 2008, 09:27
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Pentru fumigiene dintr-astea o sa iti scada nota la purtare smile.gif .


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o fumigena militara:D


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Mercaptan-ul ce are? E substanta care se pune in buteliile de gaz. Poate ai vre'un prieten la chimie sau care lucreaza la in domeniul de extractie al gazelor, poate chiar la distrigaz.


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Votez pentru mercaptan 243.gif...pe langa faptul ca dai afara ce ai mincat in ultimele 48 de ore...mirosul persista destu de mult...post-336-1110552483.gif


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Daca mai e vreunul dintr-ala cu masina cu gpl cu toba sparta sau instalatie dereglata...s-ar putea sa nu aiba nici un efect mercaptanul. La mine nu mai are, am mers cu catalizatorul neetansat pe saxofon si imi baga miros de gpl in masina. La semafor parca eram la nenea Adolf la statiune, in Polonia.


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Mercaptanu' cica-i derivat organic al hidrogenului sulfurat (H2SO3)
Asta-i un acid foarte slab, chiar daca seamana ca formula cu acidul sulfuric, va asigur ca pute a estenta de basini stricate. radmasa.gif

7 Jan 2008, 19:22:
Stati ca am confundat, H2SO3 e acid sulfuros, dar tot la fel de naspa pute.
Acidul sulfurat e H2S si e putin toxic.

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QUOTE(vis-a-vis @ 7 Jan 2008, 19:15)



De unde mama naibii ai scol link-ul ala, au trecut 6 ani radmasa.gif


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post 9 Jan 2008, 00:26
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Nu prea stiu de unde sa fac rost de mercaptanul asta....

Hai sa va mai dau un indiciu.... Mi-ar place grozav o substanta care sa intre in reactie cu fumul de tzigara si sa faca ceva, de ex. cum ziceam, sa puta groaznic.

Ceva de genul substantei alea ce se pune in piscina si daca faci pipi... se coloreaza apa. Asa si eu cu fumul de tzigara.
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