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uscatu83
post 11 Dec 2007, 23:46
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sad.gif Am si eu o intrebare. Am schimbat uleiul la dsn-ul meu si nu am gasit ELF 10w40 si am bagat ELF 15w40. Va rog frumos daca poate sa imi zica cineva daca are ceva, sau trebuie sa il schimb din nou? Multumesc. Mentionez ca am deja vreo 5000 km cu el:(

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post 11 Dec 2007, 23:51
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ar fi trebuit un ulei semisintetic sau sintetic la motorul de pe dsn. asta mi se pare cam "gros" mai ales ca e iarna. pe el ce scrie? este mineral ?


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Numa bine pt un schimb.
Uleiul mineral se schimba la 5000.
Pune macar un 10W.


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post 11 Dec 2007, 23:59
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Este mineral. Inseamna ca trebuie sa il schimb


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post 11 Dec 2007, 23:59
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iti propun sa nu mergi mult cu asta si sa bagi 10w40 nu e bine sa schimbi tipurile de ulei


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post 12 Dec 2007, 00:00
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Cum este mai bine: 10w40 sau 5w40? are 66mii km.


12 Dec 2007, 00:01:
deja am mers 5000si ceva cu el

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post 12 Dec 2007, 00:15
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5w 40 . cauta un ulei sintetic. mobil de exemplu.


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post 12 Dec 2007, 00:54
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ulei sintetic dupa ulei mineral, e ca berea dupa vin ..biggrin.gif

15W40 si 20W40 e cam pentru motorul de berlina... biggrin.gif

10W40 cat mai repede sau 5W40, dar sa fie semisintetic.


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post 12 Dec 2007, 01:01
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tongue.gif parca 5W-40 nu era voie sa pui in motorul de SN

[B]Nu stiu ce pazesc moderatorii, se discuta aiurea despre uleiuri, topicuri peste topicuri pline de inutilitati[B] blink.gif

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post 12 Dec 2007, 01:19
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Aia de la Dacia mie mi-au zis sa folosesc 10W40, ACEA A3, API SJ (sper ca le-am scris in ordinea corecta).
Avand in vedere ca multa lume a folosit si foloseste 10W40 cu succes, de ce sa-ti bati capul cu alte balarii?

Totusi e bine daca te hotarasti asupra unei marci si tip de ulei, sa-l folosesti doa pe ala si sa nu faci ghiveci.


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post 12 Dec 2007, 07:07
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QUOTE(dr_mKe @ 12 Dec 2007, 01:01)
tongue.gif parca 5W-40 nu era voie sa pui in motorul de SN



Se poate pune si 10W- dai si 5W- si 0W-, cel putin in cartea Loganului sunt trecuta, si e cam acelasi motor. icon_mrgreen.gif


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post 12 Dec 2007, 10:03
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Nu mai inteleg nimic. Unii zic sa pun 10w40 semisintetic, altul 5w40 sintetic, altul zice 5w40 semisintetic.


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post 12 Dec 2007, 10:57
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Frate pune MOBIL 1 -10W semisintetic, dai jos la 10k si gata.


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post 12 Dec 2007, 13:32
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asculta bine la ce zic eu astia pot sa puna si 1000000000w300000 daca exista u pune in motor ce iti recomanda producatorul adica 10w40 ca nu degeaba zic aia ..........


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post 12 Dec 2007, 13:38
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Sau 5W-40, tot cum zice cartea tongue.gif


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post 12 Dec 2007, 13:39
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QUOTE(SYL @ 12 Dec 2007, 08:07)
Se poate pune si 10W- dai si 5W- si 0W-, cel putin in cartea Loganului sunt trecuta, si e cam acelasi motor.  icon_mrgreen.gif


Ai zis bine, CAM acelasi motor, dar nu e chiar acelasi.


QUOTE(uscatu83 @ 12 Dec 2007, 11:03)
Nu mai inteleg nimic. Unii zic sa pun 10w40 semisintetic, altul 5w40 sintetic, altul zice 5w40 semisintetic.


Daca amesteci ulei mineral cu ulei full sintetic, o sa obtii o mare spuma si o mare varza.
Ulei semisintetic cu ulei mineral nu e chiar mare problema, pentru ca uleiul semisintetic are in compozitie ulei mineral.

Uleiurile cu primul grad mai mic (10,5,0) se folosesc in zone cu friguri extreme si la noi nu e cazul.

De aceea cauta pe aici ca era o statistica facuta de mine cu "Ce ulei puneti in DSN/SLZ?" sau "Ulei recomandat", citeste pe acolo.

Nu exista o formula corecta, universal valabila, dar cei care au pus ce a zis producatorul n-au avut probleme.


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post 12 Dec 2007, 14:59
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M-am uitat pe o carte de logan si zice ca merge 5w30, nu 5w40. Deci in nconcluzie am cumparat ELF 10w40 competition st de la cora(22,7 lei litrul.) si il pun pe asta. Si cred ca motoarele de logan au mici modificari fata de cele de sn.


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post 12 Dec 2007, 15:02
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QUOTE(uscatu83 @ 12 Dec 2007, 10:03)
Nu mai inteleg nimic. Unii zic sa pun 10w40 semisintetic, altul 5w40 sintetic, altul zice 5w40 semisintetic.



QUOTE(nh1980ro @ 12 Dec 2007, 13:39)
Ai zis bine, CAM acelasi motor, dar nu e chiar acelasi.



@uscatu83 ulei sintetic e cel 0W- si 5W-, ulei semisintetic e 10W- si ulei minieral e 15W- si 20W-.

@nh1980ro te rog sa ma scuzi, sunt motoare total diferite, nu exista nicio asemanare intre ele, nici nu imi dau seama cum am putut face o asemenea greseala sa spun ca e acelasi motor.. radmasa.gif
Pt restul, e acelasi motor, bine pe Logan exista in plus si motorul 1.6 (pe langa cel de 1.4), care nu se gaseste pe DSN si SLZ.


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post 12 Dec 2007, 15:29
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Ai uitat de DCI si motoarele de 1.6 sunt cu 8V si cu 16V.. biggrin.gif

Si nu stiu exact toate diferentele, dar stiu ca ala 1.4 de la Solenza are diferit fata de ala 1.4 de la Logan (e ceva cu camasile de la cilindri,dar nu stiu exact ce anume difera).

@uscatu83 Ai facut alegerea potrivita smile.gif Dar mai trebuie si alt filtru de ulei.


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post 12 Dec 2007, 15:43
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Motorul 1.4 MPI, e K7J si se regaseste atat pe DSN, SLZ, cat si pe LGN, Clio, etc. Chair daca sunt unele diferente miniore in functei de modelul de autoturism pe care e montat, pe aceste motoare se poate folosi atat ulei semisintetic (10W- ) cat si ulei sintetic (5W- si 0W- )...Acum depinde si cat de des il schimbi, de cat de mult vrei sa ai grija de masina, de cati bani esti dispus sa investesti pt intretinerea ei, etc.


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post 12 Dec 2007, 16:33
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Parca la Clio/DSN/SLZ era E7J.


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post 12 Dec 2007, 19:43
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Da, asa e, e E7J, dar oricum, ideea e ca merge si ulei semisintetic si sintetic. icon_mrgreen.gif


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post 12 Dec 2007, 20:03
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diferenta e ca la logan nu mai are camasi ,pistoanele sunt diferite astea sunt diferentele si normal e mai fiabil va spun sigur am vazut un mecanic in service cand umbla la el l-am intrebat eu


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post 12 Dec 2007, 20:23
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@nh1980ro. Bineinteles ca schimb si filtrul. acolo era vorba de ulei, nu de filtru. Stiu ca la fiecare schimbare de ulei se schimba si filtrul. 04.gif


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post 12 Dec 2007, 21:15
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si pana la urma ai bagat 10w40?


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post 12 Dec 2007, 22:33
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Am luat elf10w40, dar nu l-am bagat. Urmeaza sa il bag la tara, adica peste cateva zile.

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post 17 Dec 2007, 08:27
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Deci io am bagat mobil1 sintetic am mers 10 k si am fost multumit....la schinbul urmator am bagat valvoline5-30....iar multumit...nu papa strop.....si io o si cam forjez...parerea mea...ful sintetic..mai scump da stai in fata...masina are 53 k km..

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post 18 Dec 2007, 12:12
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5W-30 nu prea e bun vara, e prea subtire. Pt vara ar trebui macar 5W40, si daca gasesti si mai bun ar fi 5W-50.


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folosesc ulei de la Mobil1 10W40 semisintetic este bun pt slz benzina sau exista altu si mai bun? La cat timp trebuie schimbat cu exactitate?deja am vreo 3000 cu el


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post 13 Jan 2008, 21:19
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In mod normal revizia (si schimbul uleiului) se face la 10.000km, daca nu scrie altfel pe bidonul de ulei (adica daca ar trebui schimbat mai repede).


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