Mazda a oprit productia modelului cu motor rotativ
Mazda a oprit productia modelului cu motor rotativ
eug3n92 |
22 Aug 2011, 23:17
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Dacia
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1990 Dacia 1300 - Since 1990 | 1289 cm3 | 54 HP
Mazda - 323F - Since 1997 | 1489 cm3 - 16 valve | 88 HP |
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ArtVandelay |
22 Aug 2011, 23:45
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Anytown, USA.. Group: Members Posts: 2.662 Joined: 5 January 08 From: Craiova |
Era si cazul, nu vad niciun avantaj al unui asemenea motor, consum mare (si ulei si benzina), fiabilitate scazuta, cuplu f mic
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Ford
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2001 He wondered why the boomerang kept getting bigger. Then, it hit him.
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al3x3 |
23 Aug 2011, 09:36
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Membru Group: Members Posts: 180 Joined: 4 June 08 |
QUOTE(0-100.ro) Totusi, Mazda nu va renunta la motorul rotativ si are in plan o versiune mai puternica si mult mai ecologica, insa proiectul este pentru moment in asteptare. (0-100.ro) |
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Ford
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Mk 2.5 (2008) ----
Ex Renault 19 1.8 RT (1993) .. .- -- - .... . ... - .. --. |
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eug3n92 |
23 Aug 2011, 21:29
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Engineer Group: Members Posts: 26 Joined: 21 August 11 From: Hunedoara |
Pentru curse eventual sa fie facute.
Nimeni nu isi cumpara o masina cu motorul acesta minune ca sa se duca cu ea prin oras. |
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Dacia
1300
1990 Dacia 1300 - Since 1990 | 1289 cm3 | 54 HP
Mazda - 323F - Since 1997 | 1489 cm3 - 16 valve | 88 HP |
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P-A-C-O |
20 Aug 2013, 13:07
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What you see is what you get! Group: Members Posts: 2.350 Joined: 3 October 10 |
QUOTE Mazda : Le retour du rotatif moteur-rotatif.jpg On pensait qu’avec la fin de la RX8, Mazda avait totalement tiré un trait sur une de ses spécialités mécaniques, le moteur rotatif. On se disait que les récents et performants moteurs SkyActiv allaient envahir la gamme Mazda et prendre leurs aises sur tous les moteurs, ce ne sera pas tout à fait vrai puisqu’on apprend au travers d’entretiens réalisés par Autoblog et par 7Tune que le constructeur d’Hiroshima travaille actuellement au développement d’une nouvelle génération de moteur rotatif qui prend le nom de 16X. Le constructeur japonais travaillerait selon trois axes qui sont en fait le talon d’Achille du moteur rotatif tel que nous le connaissons aujourd’hui : 1 – Forte diminution de la consommation d’huile dans les hauts régimes moteur. 2 – Réduction maximale de la consommation de carburant et des émissions de CO2. 3 – Augmentation sensible du couple moteur tout en maintenant les régimes de rotations. La personne de chez Mazda poursuit et explique : « La clef pour augmenter le couple moteur et réduire la consommation de carburant, c’est de créer un moteur de type longue course. Dans le cas présent nous parlons d’un moteur à piston triangulaire et il faudra donc modifier le principe afin de créer un moteur rotatif qui soit l’équivalent d’un bloc classique à longue course. La solution consiste à faire évoluer le chemin emprunté par le piston au sein de la chambre de combustion notamment en modifiant le dessin interne du moteur « . Tout cela est encore un peu technique et compliqué à imaginer mais gageons qu’à l’image de ce qui s’est fait pour les blocs SkyActiv, Mazda prendra le temps de nous expliquer en détail le principe de fonctionnement de ce nouveau moteur rotatif. La présentation de ce moteur que l’on pourrait retrouver sous le capot d’une sportive se fera dans le courant de l’année 2015. |
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Dsign |
20 Aug 2013, 19:54
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Led Tuning Man Group: Members Posts: 3.498 Joined: 24 November 03 From: Bucuresti |
Na belea! Sunt unii care au probleme de intelegre cu un banal boxer, d-apoi cu un Wankel...
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2004 Preference 1.6MPI Egee
- B 48 CUP http://youtu.be/OQ-ukXOBfI4
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T.rac3Er |
20 Aug 2013, 21:25
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cr8or Group: Members Posts: 1.461 Joined: 25 July 04 |
hmm chiar astept sa vad ce design interior vor pune in practica. din pacate vor trebui sa joace mult pe latura cu poluarea ca sa poata produce in serie si sa le vanda cum trebuie |
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Citro-mobil
C4
2006 VTR+ Why waste energy on fighting the old when you can just use it to create something new. All life has the creation gift inside. Use it.
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Leo0608 |
20 Aug 2013, 22:11
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Membru autentic Group: Members Posts: 1.108 Joined: 13 September 08 |
QUOTE(Dsign @ 20 Aug 2013, 19:54) corect mult hulitul oltcit sau citroenul axel/citroenul gsa frantuzesti de romani Preferau dacia 1300 Nici un alt producator nu s-a legat la cap cu wankel, a mai fost niste tentative prin 1950-1970 da nimic fiabil 100% . Cauta in carti de motoare din vremurile alea, ca scrie |
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logan
pentru?
200x
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argon |
21 Aug 2013, 08:08
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Mesaj semiautomat Group: Members Posts: 33.671 Joined: 15 August 05 |
Nimic nu e fiabil 100%, dar nici chiar 10% cat e Wankel-ul.
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Renault
Laguna
2007
- 2.0 DCI 16v 180 Fara turbo, viata e pustiu.
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dizzy |
21 Aug 2013, 09:48
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Work smart not hard! Group: Members Posts: 4.781 Joined: 11 February 04 |
Exploatat cum zice Mazda, motorul tine cat alte motoare clasice.
Dar nah, fiecare se simte mai destept decat producatorul, pune ulei din alt tip, nu respecta procedura de oprire, etc. DIn pacate, forma de banana a camerei de ardere face ca raportul de compresie sa nu poata fi crescut spre 10:1, in plus consuma ulei, ceea ce il face bun de aruncat in ziua de azi. Pe de alta parte, motorul este rotativ, ceea ce ar permite o serie intreaga de imbunatatiri, turatii mari, etc. Un Rx-8 cu un motor clasic de 2.0 turbo ar fi ceva fin This post has been edited by dizzy: 21 Aug 2013, 09:59 |
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Whirpool
ex Dacia Logan
2005
- B zzz SXX Stupidity is a more dangerous enemy of the good than evil.
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cj98czh |
21 Aug 2013, 09:57
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Membru de la Cluj ... Group: Moderatori Posts: 22.875 Joined: 27 March 06 From: Cluj-Napoca |
QUOTE(dizzy @ 21 Aug 2013, 10:48) Tine fix 90.000, la km astia se da jos si se reface, si asta nu este poveste este scrisa in manualul de service ... Motorul nu este unul extrordinar ... mare consumator si foarte putin fiabil chiar si si daca il utilizezi ca la carte |
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Ford Mondeo
Titanium, bi-turbata, 2018
/ Mazda 3 , 2018
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argon |
21 Aug 2013, 10:07
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Mesaj semiautomat Group: Members Posts: 33.671 Joined: 15 August 05 |
QUOTE(dizzy @ 21 Aug 2013, 10:48) Exploatat cum zice Mazda, motorul tine cat alte motoare clasice. Dar nah, fiecare se simte mai destept decat producatorul, pune ulei din alt tip, nu respecta procedura de oprire, etc. DIn pacate, forma de banana a camerei de ardere face ca raportul de compresie sa nu poata fi crescut spre 10:1, in plus consuma ulei, ceea ce il face bun de aruncat in ziua de azi. Pe de alta parte, motorul este rotativ, ceea ce ar permite o serie intreaga de imbunatatiri, turatii mari, etc. Un Rx-8 cu un motor clasic de 2.0 turbo ar fi ceva fin 230 de cai la 2,6 litri nu e mare sfaraiala, gasesti masini sport in aceasi bani, cu motoare similare ca si putere/capacitate, dar fiabile, nu care tin 90.000 teoretic, si 40.000 practic. De aia s-a si oprit productia Acum ca nu ai fite gen suicide doors..e alta treaba. This post has been edited by argon: 21 Aug 2013, 10:09 |
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Renault
Laguna
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- 2.0 DCI 16v 180 Fara turbo, viata e pustiu.
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dizzy |
21 Aug 2013, 10:18
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Work smart not hard! Group: Members Posts: 4.781 Joined: 11 February 04 |
In 2003 era destul de smechera, dar acum suntem in 2013. Oricum e o masina pt puristii care apreciaza asa ceva si nu mi-as lua nici de gratis.
Poate doar ca experiment tehnic sa infig un 1,0 turbo de Ford in dansa, sau 0.9 turbo de pe Logan, cred ca numai astea incap in gaurica aia mica din RX-8 fara sa demolezi juma de masina. Despre restul designului numai de bine. Asta e adevaratul coupe cu 4 usi. This post has been edited by dizzy: 21 Aug 2013, 10:21 |
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Whirpool
ex Dacia Logan
2005
- B zzz SXX Stupidity is a more dangerous enemy of the good than evil.
I have no time to battle egos and small minds. |
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quick |
21 Aug 2013, 10:37
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Membru autentic Group: Members Posts: 996 Joined: 13 April 07 From: bistrita |
ma si mir ca au reusit sa-l tina asa mult, la altii schimbi distributia la 90k km la asta trebuie sa schimbi/refaci tot motorul:))
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dacia
super nova 2002/ ford focus 2007 1.6tdci90cp
/suzuki samurai 1.3 1985 numa buna de off road
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argon |
21 Aug 2013, 10:46
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Mesaj semiautomat Group: Members Posts: 33.671 Joined: 15 August 05 |
QUOTE(dizzy @ 21 Aug 2013, 11:18) Eu zic ca nu are nici o legatura, asta e adevaratul coupe in 4 usi! Attached thumbnail(s) 800px_2012_Mercedes_Benz_CLS____09_05_2011_1.jpg ( Size: 111.06k ) Number of downloads: 555 |
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Renault
Laguna
2007
- 2.0 DCI 16v 180 Fara turbo, viata e pustiu.
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dizzy |
21 Aug 2013, 11:18
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Work smart not hard! Group: Members Posts: 4.781 Joined: 11 February 04 |
Argoane, aia e berlina in 4 usi, rebotezata de aia de la "markeling".
Si asta a fost mai misto mult http://swotti.starmedia.com/tmp/swotti/cac...edes%20cls2.jpg This post has been edited by dizzy: 21 Aug 2013, 11:19 |
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Whirpool
ex Dacia Logan
2005
- B zzz SXX Stupidity is a more dangerous enemy of the good than evil.
I have no time to battle egos and small minds. |
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T.rac3Er |
21 Aug 2013, 11:56
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cr8or Group: Members Posts: 1.461 Joined: 25 July 04 |
- 1.3 rotativi apreciati de experti ca fiind 2.6 motor clasic, aspirat, producea in 2003-2004 230cp
- bmw prin 2006 la generatia E90 scoate din 2.5 aspirati 215cp, iar mercedesu scotea vreo 200cp - haudi n-a avut echivalent cilindric deci totusi, motorul ofera peformante. The Renesis won International Engine of the Year and Best New Engine awards 2003 and also holds the "2.5 to 3 liter" size award for 2003 and 2004, Finally, it was on the Ward's 10 Best Engines list for 2004 and 2005. Multi posesori auto merg dupa cum le dicteaza plapuma dimineata. De aia merge afacerea cu reconditionari turbo Ce recomanda producatorul, pe geam. Acelasi lucru valabil si la masinile electrice. Omu vrea sa mearga cu electrica cum merge tractorasul lui golf 4 tedeiii, sau cu veoptu de 7 litrii. Ca doar are range la fel cat o limuzina comparativa, mai putin benzinariile care sunt la tot pasul. deci orice tehnologie diferita va avea un grad redus de penetrare datorita mentalitatii majoritatii. de aia e bun un sfarsit al lumii sa ii vezi pe aia care iau totul de-a gata cum se perpelesc si mor in prima luna, cu sau fara bani. |
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Citro-mobil
C4
2006 VTR+ Why waste energy on fighting the old when you can just use it to create something new. All life has the creation gift inside. Use it.
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cdadan |
21 Aug 2013, 22:38
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fara turbo viata e pustiu Group: Members Posts: 5.202 Joined: 9 October 09 From: Cluj Napoca |
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andri1940 |
23 Aug 2013, 23:03
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Membru autentic Group: Members Posts: 1.741 Joined: 23 March 08 From: Pitesti |
Mazda a dat dovada de mare curaj sa tina modele cu motor rotativ in productie atatia ani.
O firma care a scos un model incredibil pentru anii lui a dat faliment si a fost preluata de VW tocmai din cauza unui asemenea motor. Se pare ca bolile rotativului nici acum n-au fost vindecate pe deplin. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSU_Ro_80 Attached thumbnail(s) NSU_Ro_80.jpg ( Size: 42.76k ) Number of downloads: 369 |
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Renault
Laguna 2 1.8 16v
Dynamique 2002
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sorin1983 |
23 Aug 2013, 23:49
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Membru autentic Group: Members Posts: 5.590 Joined: 3 July 06 From: Bucuresti-Rahova |
se vede dupa numarul de inmatriculare ca era o problema cu consumul
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Megane1-
-Sisteme electronice de securitate "Pe zi ce trece, prostii fac progrese, devin si mai prosti!" C. Vadim Tudor
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boeru_laurentiu |
24 Aug 2013, 12:06
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Membru Group: Members Posts: 1.244 Joined: 25 November 09 From: Focsani |
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renault
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2011, 173 cp , automatã
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