Hi I am a new one here. I was glad to read all yours imresions on Logan so far so I decide to buy one. Does any one have any expirience/information/knowlege with/on Logan Lauret Pack 1.5dci or other version of Logan with 1.5dci so far? I have ordered one kameleon green and it is expected to ariwe in late december (read new year). Price 10600€. This post has been edited by bness: 10 Oct 2005, 02:27

the subject has been discussed on the romanian part of the forum...
most of them say that it's a great car, the interior is strangely quiet for a diesel, and everybody was impressed by the performance of the engine and by the gear ratio wich is good for a diesel.
but they don't recomend it if you want to go faster than 120 km/h

This post has been edited by ga!nusha: 10 Oct 2005, 10:52

Dacia will produce only Logan with weakest 1,5dci (65 bhp)?

In 2007 will apear Diesel 1.5 dci 80 bhp
And in 2006 will apear 1.6 16v and 107 bhp

I cannot agree more...


Dacia will produce only Logan with weakest 1,5dci (65 bhp)?
I think so, but the motor is not weak at all... The car responds verry well to gas pedal and there are no problems until 120km/h... After this speed the car ist not so stable comparing to Logan on petrol, maybe because of it's bigger weight (70 kilos more) ...

For western market the engine will have 70 Hp and Euro 4, and some modification on transmission and clutch...

I realy dont need to drive over 120 km/h.

I am glad to hear that noice is lower then in petrol version.

My problem is that I ordered Laureat Pack, and I'm not shure about date of delivery. I have read in some text finded in internet that Dacia doesent know real date of starting delivery Laureat pack because it is linked with need of diesel version in the market. What is that meen?Will they wait for some number of orders to start making Laureat pack? My dealer was take advance money from me, with promis that delivery date is late decembar. Who is right?

regarding this all that i can say is that i ordered the car in august and i'mm still waiting for it... and it's 1.6 petrol

The noise is not lower on the diesel version, it's just a little over petrol, not much diffrence under 3000rpm.
In Romania the dealers take orders for the diesel laureate version, and delivery is over 2-3 months; but I am talking about romanian Laureate version, not the export one.

About noise, I meen all like you. I meen diesel is usualy louder then petrol, but Logan 1.6 mpi was to loud and I was afraid that in the diesel version will be more noice then petrol.

Today in Novi Sad Auto Fair I'w seen diesel version of Logan Ambience. (only servo in applyed)

I must say it have some covers on hood and on the cokpit of the mashine, and that is the reason whay is almoust same as petrol version, witch does't have that covers.

Please explain "stabile" because it does not have sence to be les stabile if it is car more havy. When the car is havy car is more stabile. Except if the weight is not ordered same on every side of the car.

Is that mean that ingeniers in dacia mess some things with diesel version? Maybe is one of the car, not the whole model?

Yeah, the Logan Diesel will be a little louder (not much) than the Logan 1.6mpi. Where are you located?

Novi Sad, Vojvodina, Srbija

OK, I`m going to Novi Sad Auto Fair to steal those covers...

This post has been edited by mccoy: 12 Oct 2005, 00:39

I think for a few mounths those covers will be available to by as a spare part so maybe you/and other can buy those at dealer shop. I'w spoke with saler on the Auto Fair, and he sead that this is some posibilities to buy those covers for a few mounths, when Logan 1.5dci will be more spread on the market.

This post has been edited by bness: 12 Oct 2005, 09:25

Hhhmmmm......

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I doubt, we are talking `bout Logan 1.5 dci
The name is `Auto Show - Novi Sad`( serbian , very ethnical ) or
`5th Car Show - Novi Sad`( english ).
It is held on Novi Sad Fair.
So, I didn`t make it, security was tough
Only took some pictures...

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Yes, that is. And my logan is still far from Novi Sad, and December as it never come

And I'm still waiting, and waiting...

This post has been edited by bness: 15 Oct 2005, 23:27

HI! I just recieved my 1,5dci Logan this wednesday (19th of october) and I must say I am extremly pleased with my car, and that after I already drove around 850 Kilometers with the 45liters of diesel fuel i bought imideatly after I got the car. I chose the preferance model because of delivery terms, as if I wanted the laureat pack I would've waited till december and I couldn't afford to wait that long (I ordered the car on 27th of september). Hope your car will be delivered as soon as possible, mine came with 8 days earlier then the dealer first said.

Thanks for good wishes. God news that they are fast in deliveries, Hoep I will be that luck. 859 km with 45l of diesel meens that your logan consume 5.3l for 100 km. Is that city driving, combined or highway? Wath abouth noice? How good on start it is? Did you drove diesel car before to compare with Logan 15dci?

Hi, I have an Ambition version of this car, 1.6 MPI petrol engine and in my Logan manual it sais a few things about the Diesel so, good news for the ones that want full options and Diesel, it seems there will be an Ambition with Diesel engine.

There are some special considerations writen for the Diesel especialy in the manual:
1. In the winters you need to have a good charged battery (the Diesel takes a lot more power to start because of the incandescent spark plugs).
2. You need to have a partialy filled fuel tank most of the time because a low on fuel tank develops watter on the bottom of it which is not good for the engine.

About worrying on the Diesel engine... It's a DCi and that should say it all. Have you ever seen a new Renault DCi not starting in winter or having problems starting ? It has only 65 HP because of the turbine which is smaller than in the other more powerfull DCi versions and it has different firmware but it's still the almost all the same 1.5 DCi from Renault.

You should also take notice that if you are not driving lots of kilometters per year (from 15 000 upwards) Diesel or petrol... the total cost of ownership is about the same in the first 3 - 4 years and that's why I've opted for the Ambition. I got it faster, had all the stuff in it and at about the same price as the 1.5 DCi Laureate version (which does not have ABS and the Ambition has it). So what you don't give on petrol you give on the car and the revisions (filters and stuff) which are a bit higher than for the petrol engine. If you're not planing big tours every weekend a 1.4 MPI or perhaps a more gas hungrier but more powerfull 1.6 MPI could be a much better choice. You fill up the tank more often with 1.4 or 1.6 MPI but you get the car faster, get more power and at about the same total cost of ownership if you ride somewhere arround 15000 Km / year.

Hi! About 350km out of the total 850 were driven between cities here in Romania, but not on any highways. The rest of 'em I drove right here in Bucharest. I must add that i never exceded the speed of 120km/h and 2800rpm. About the noise, I must say that it is similar to the noise produced by the 1,5dci engine on the Renault Clio Symbol, which my parents own, and wich I drove for a long time. About starting the engine I can say that there are absolutely no problems whatsoever. The engie starts imediately after turning the key, but on this matter we'll see how it will be on cold winter mornings. So by know I am very pleased with the car, and I hope you will be as well with your car.

Generaly you are right.

But in diference of price of pretrol and diesel version (full version of Logan) is 1100 evra here in Serbia. That meens that in that difrence you can spend 1105 litars of petrol with average consuption od 7,2l mixed driving (1.6 mpi) equals 15.277 km

For diesel version calculation is a bit diferent because price od diesel is a bit cheeper but you spend less diesel in averige consumption.
Calculation is: For the diference in price you will buy 1187 litars of eurodizela with is with average consumption od 5.3 mixed driving 22.396 km

If you are driving as I (between 25000-30000 km pre year) After one year you will spend all "difrence in price" money and you will after that dirive your car for less money.

I had 10 year old Fiat punto turbo diesel and newer had any problems with starting at winter even at -20 C (last winter). Truth is that you need good bateries. I don't know abouth wather in thank. Same thing are with both tahnks gasoline and diesel, only when is wather in gasoline thank - gas pump can die. At diesel thank bosh pump can die wich is much expensiv then gas pump

This post has been edited by bness: 24 Oct 2005, 21:50

With "how good on star he is" I ment how fast you can start driving you'r car. Does he need more preshure on gas pedal, or he can start smooth as gasolin version? I hope you anderstend me

These car start by just turn the key. On the petrol version it's also recomended that you do not press the pedal before starting the car. I bet on Diesel it's the same. It's just like pushing a button only that you turn a key.

On the earlier post I was talking about differences between new cars. Since your option when you decide to buy a Logan is Diesel or one of the petrol engines you have to think about the total cost of ownership (TCO). It's not just the difference in petrol versus Diesel price per litter or in the consumption. It's also the maintanance and the price difference. You need to simulate 3 - 4 years of utilisation with both options and evaluate the cost at the end of this period and then choose. Don't let the marketing guys make the decision for you because you'll sooner or later be dissapointed. Make your own choices and that's all I've wanted to say.

This post has been edited by DigitalScribe: 25 Oct 2005, 12:02

Yes I forgot to calculate TOC. Onership is cheper for this particular 1.5dci here in Serbia, because od cm3 then 1.6mpi (payment for registration of the car). Maintence is a bit more expensive, but not to much, so my opinion (from expirience with Fiat Punto TD (diesel) and Fiat punto 1.1(petrol) wish I oned for a years) that I will have cheeper ride after 14-16 months. That way I chose diesel version)

And I know that these cars are start on turn of the key. I ment how fast start is when the car is alredy started - 1 geer - step on the gas pedal - And how much hard you need to start pedal. On older diesel engines you was need to push more gas pedal for a fast start.

This post has been edited by bness: 26 Oct 2005, 03:25

Hope I understood your question. Because of the turbine the car leaves the impression that is even a bit faster than the 1,4MPI version, but in fact it really isn't so. Anyway I assure you that the engine is fast enough at least till you reach 100Km/h. I never exceded the speed of 120km/h and 2800rpm by now, because of the speed and rpm restrictions wich apply to the first 1600 kilometers, but when you press the gas pedal the engine responds extremly well. The engine starts beautifuly at the first key turn in the morning, and you don't need to touch the pedal when doing so. I noticed that it achieves the optimal temeprature a bit later than cars that run on gasoline, but it doesn't bother you too much. Tough you must be "gentle" with the engine while it's not warm enouh.

Thanks, for an answer. Yestrday I was driving Renault clio with same 1.5dci engine, and the feeling is same. I was afraid that Logan will be slower because he is havier almoust 80 kg. Maybe that will be true if Logan is full with passingers.

New Renault Clio III 1.5 dci comes in three different varieties depending of engines power:
1. 50 kW - 68 HP
2. 63 kW - 86 HP
3. 78 kW – 108HP
Of course, acceleration, top speed, consumption and price differs.
According to my insufficient technical knowledge generally about machines,
I understand the fact that less turbine ( air ) preasure makes less power and opposite,
and that is controlled by ECU.Changing the paramethers of ECU is so-called chip-tuning…
As for nowadays LGN dci with 65 HP , top 155 km/h, 0-100km/h 15,5 s, price…hhmm
So, there is a chance to see Logan 1.5 dci with a few horses more…

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