scratches of painting, howto fix?
scratches of painting, howto fix?
xtraya |
11 Mar 2007, 11:48
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jaksa |
11 Mar 2007, 23:30
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I am just curious, what did they told you in Logan's service in Belgrade, why they can not sell the paint?
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xtraya |
12 Mar 2007, 08:42
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Membru incepator Group: Members Posts: 72 Joined: 6 July 05 From: Belgrade Serbia |
they gave me advice to find small bottles with paint and make up scrathes by myself
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Uri |
12 Mar 2007, 09:14
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I know exactly how you feel. In my case, an idiot put something heavy and scratching onto the trunk of my car in a parking lot of a hypermarket, and unluckily enough, the area was not covered with security cameras...
But in Estonia, we have insurance called KASKO for cases like that. You go to the insurance company, they take some photos of your car, then you go to the Renault/Dacia shop you bought the car from, then the insurance and Renault/Dacia people handle it together. You have to pay for just the so-called "self-responsibility" part of the bill. |
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wolfin |
12 Mar 2007, 15:02
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n-am gasit cu dacia Group: Members Posts: 7.910 Joined: 2 December 05 From: Bucuresti |
in our service(dacia or reno) we find a device (like lipstyc for women) with all type of paint used to remove scratching. after you use this lipstyc on the car you polish the work . the price of this lipstyc is 10 euro.
if the scratch is deep, to the metal, the use of the lipstyc is no longer an option. Kasko/casco in romanian- you should use this inssurance if the scratch is deep. if you dont have an asssurance you shoul got one (400 eur per year) This post has been edited by wolfin: 12 Mar 2007, 15:25 |
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... din 1980 si ceva. Urmeaza si 2020
- Curand de provincie Scuze Mucix, am gasit altul"În fata unei boli esti precaut sau prost", o stai ..Bici zice ca o gasit a buna...mis un cane rau dar cu suflet mare
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g100sic |
13 Mar 2007, 01:23
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Membru autentic Group: Members Posts: 313 Joined: 4 January 07 From: Serbia |
There is a Kasko insurance in Serbia too, of course, and I strongly recommend it for new vehicles, just for the cases like that. Some banks, in fact, most banks demand this kind of insurance when you buy the car on credit, and even if it is not requested it is wise to spend some extra bucks on it! The problem in this case is that the insurance agency will not accept liability for the damage made BEFORE you buy the insurance
I'm surprised by the attitude of the authorized service though, as this kind of damage may render useless the 6-year warranty for the paint job... But then again, not too much unusual, for it is Serbia... |
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wolfin |
13 Mar 2007, 09:30
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n-am gasit cu dacia Group: Members Posts: 7.910 Joined: 2 December 05 From: Bucuresti |
warranty for the paint job.
if the hood is damage by you whay lose the warranty for the door? In Romania is am issue with the paint job(low quality). The paint is damade by the bird shit. |
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3120
... din 1980 si ceva. Urmeaza si 2020
- Curand de provincie Scuze Mucix, am gasit altul"În fata unei boli esti precaut sau prost", o stai ..Bici zice ca o gasit a buna...mis un cane rau dar cu suflet mare
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g100sic |
13 Mar 2007, 12:25
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Membru autentic Group: Members Posts: 313 Joined: 4 January 07 From: Serbia |
QUOTE(wolfin @ 13 Mar 2007, 08:30) warranty for the paint job. if the hood is damage by you whay lose the warranty for the door? In Romania is am issue with the paint job(low quality). The paint is damade by the bird shit. To the best of my knowledge, any manufacturer warants only against defects in material and/or workmanship, and not a single one against deliberate scratches and other kinds of damages, with or without your knowledge. If your hood starts to develop the rust holes as a result of the scratch, you can hardly aply for waranty! So, it is the owner's responsability to repair the damage, but the obligation to do that in an authorized service using proper parts, materials and procedures aprooved by the manufacturer, for the continuation of the waranty. As this may cost a lot (because if the manufacturer did not take your money for the price of the car, it will try to take it from you for the repairs ), it is important to be covered by the insurance! As for the quality of the paint job, although I admit that it is much to early to judge that, the silver (or platinum gray actually) metalic on my new Logan seems worth 240 Euros in price difference... Hope I'll be able to say that in 5 years too |
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g100sic |
13 Mar 2007, 12:38
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Membru autentic Group: Members Posts: 313 Joined: 4 January 07 From: Serbia |
Not much use in having the nice looking door, with rust holes on your hood...
But let's try concetrating on finding the repair kit for our fellow Logan owner... Or making the authorized service to do a proper job! And, while we are at it, try also findig me a repair kit for the rear window striped heater, so I wouldn't have to apply for my waranty to change the whole window glass (I kinda have a bad feeling about that operation... ) |
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Uri |
13 Mar 2007, 12:56
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Bird droppings are chemically very aggressive and can damage paint on every car, not just a Romanian built car. Sea gull's droppings eat holes in paint of my brother's Volvo's roof (he was lazy enough not to stop right when it happened, and later was too late).
BTW, are you sure the job quality in Romania is so bad, or has the whining about quality more to do with our (East European) complexes? Actually I think East Europeans don't differ from other human beings. See what Czechs are doing - Skodas are built better than VWs! Ain't that wonderful? |
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wolfin |
13 Mar 2007, 13:05
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n-am gasit cu dacia Group: Members Posts: 7.910 Joined: 2 December 05 From: Bucuresti |
"repair kit for the rear window striped heater"
y dont undersand what do you refered- the metal joints +/- are lose from the glass for uri: its about the paint who has lack of varnish,lacquer or not enough-that is the issue here -in RO-(allready we ar off topic) do not forget that is la low cost car but........ This post has been edited by wolfin: 13 Mar 2007, 13:21 Attached image(s) |
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pegas
3120
... din 1980 si ceva. Urmeaza si 2020
- Curand de provincie Scuze Mucix, am gasit altul"În fata unei boli esti precaut sau prost", o stai ..Bici zice ca o gasit a buna...mis un cane rau dar cu suflet mare
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g100sic |
13 Mar 2007, 17:39
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Membru autentic Group: Members Posts: 313 Joined: 4 January 07 From: Serbia |
QUOTE(wolfin @ 13 Mar 2007, 12:05) "repair kit for the rear window striped heater" y dont undersand what do you refered- the metal joints +/- are lose from the glass No, there is a small break in one of the stripes. There are such repair kits, with conducting paste, as Stu found out, but all the web links point to USA, I didn't find anything like it mentioned in Europe. |
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2010 / Trend (Flex Pack 11) Never argue with a fool -- people might not notice the difference! (Murphy's First Law of Debate)
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martin245 |
13 Mar 2007, 20:42
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EX PAT Group: Members Posts: 913 Joined: 1 April 06 From: Karlsbad Germany (again) |
Super Stu strikes again
this comes from Good Old England and costs about 18 Euro http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Permatex-Rear-heated...1QQcmdZViewItem This post has been edited by martin245: 13 Mar 2007, 21:56 |
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taco |
13 Mar 2007, 23:49
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Saving for a Logan Hatchback Diesel Group: Members Posts: 73 Joined: 10 December 06 From: Spain |
QUOTE(Uri @ 13 Mar 2007, 12:56) Bird droppings are chemically very aggressive and can damage paint on every car, not just a Romanian built car. Sea gull's droppings eat holes in paint of my brother's Volvo's roof (he was lazy enough not to stop right when it happened, and later was too late). BTW, are you sure the job quality in Romania is so bad, or has the whining about quality more to do with our (East European) complexes? Actually I think East Europeans don't differ from other human beings. See what Czechs are doing - Skodas are built better than VWs! Ain't that wonderful? I'm Spanish and and I do agree with you. Quality has nothing to do with coming from East or West but with the policy of each individual carmaker |
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xtraya |
14 Mar 2007, 09:57
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Membru incepator Group: Members Posts: 72 Joined: 6 July 05 From: Belgrade Serbia |
can some of you from romania, to buy me an lipstick and send me to serbia?
i`ll pay it on some way, we will make a deal... |
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wolfin |
14 Mar 2007, 11:05
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n-am gasit cu dacia Group: Members Posts: 7.910 Joined: 2 December 05 From: Bucuresti |
y will try to go to a Dacia service this week (when y have time) and sent you.
For the payment we will meet at the border/douane-Turnu Severin (y will be on 6 april 07 there- i go to my motherinlaw in the first time tell me the paint code, adress and name on PM y will try to serve you This post has been edited by wolfin: 14 Mar 2007, 12:55 |
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pegas
3120
... din 1980 si ceva. Urmeaza si 2020
- Curand de provincie Scuze Mucix, am gasit altul"În fata unei boli esti precaut sau prost", o stai ..Bici zice ca o gasit a buna...mis un cane rau dar cu suflet mare
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daciafreak |
14 Mar 2007, 12:47
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Membru incepator Group: Members Posts: 18 Joined: 23 February 07 From: Bunschoten, the Netherlands |
He Stu, was the quality of that item from Good Old England so bad, that they had to remove it from E-bay?? I cant see it !!
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DenNy |
14 Mar 2007, 15:38
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Membru Group: Members Posts: 118 Joined: 22 August 05 From: Vojvodina, Banat |
If you want to repair scratches, go to first paint shop and buy the minimal amount of color you need. Repair those damages and you will have color for scratches and for further damages.
Every modern paint shop can mix/prepare color for your Logan. Just to remind you that, repaired place will be a little different from original one. This is because you will use small brush or something else (it is different to paint with brush and sprayer, and this contrast must be) . This is my experience, I (pain shop) have painted my whole back bumper and I use the rest of color to fix similar damages. This post has been edited by DenNy: 14 Mar 2007, 15:50 |
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DenNy |
14 Mar 2007, 15:56
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Membru Group: Members Posts: 118 Joined: 22 August 05 From: Vojvodina, Banat |
And as you described this damage, only paint shop can help you. Because what ever you'll use, it remains visible.
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wolfin |
14 Mar 2007, 16:07
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n-am gasit cu dacia Group: Members Posts: 7.910 Joined: 2 December 05 From: Bucuresti |
denNy you are from Banat, my wife is from Banat but from the RO part of Danube Nice music on radio station(serbian) when y pass ower there
as y said-the lipstyk is useful just in case of small scratches This post has been edited by wolfin: 14 Mar 2007, 16:12 |
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3120
... din 1980 si ceva. Urmeaza si 2020
- Curand de provincie Scuze Mucix, am gasit altul"În fata unei boli esti precaut sau prost", o stai ..Bici zice ca o gasit a buna...mis un cane rau dar cu suflet mare
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DenNy |
14 Mar 2007, 16:15
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Membru Group: Members Posts: 118 Joined: 22 August 05 From: Vojvodina, Banat |
QUOTE(wolfin @ 14 Mar 2007, 15:07) denNy you are from Banat, my wife is from Banat but from the RO part of Danube as y said-the lipstyk is useful just in case of small scratches He said that it is made by key or something and that it is deep on some places, and of course whole side. And damage like that is no way to repair by your self. I mean he can, but it will remain visible... very visible |
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wolfin |
14 Mar 2007, 16:18
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n-am gasit cu dacia Group: Members Posts: 7.910 Joined: 2 December 05 From: Bucuresti |
after the use of lipstyc is imperative to polish
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3120
... din 1980 si ceva. Urmeaza si 2020
- Curand de provincie Scuze Mucix, am gasit altul"În fata unei boli esti precaut sau prost", o stai ..Bici zice ca o gasit a buna...mis un cane rau dar cu suflet mare
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wolfin |
14 Mar 2007, 16:44
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n-am gasit cu dacia Group: Members Posts: 7.910 Joined: 2 December 05 From: Bucuresti |
y got an information from my coleagues from Reno
If Careffour opened in Serbia it seems that they sell some type of marker(lipstyc) for scrachers. also in RO, there are some paintstore ho made this markers after the paint code of the car. It should be also in yours country. look for it xtraya, if not page me This post has been edited by wolfin: 14 Mar 2007, 16:48 |
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3120
... din 1980 si ceva. Urmeaza si 2020
- Curand de provincie Scuze Mucix, am gasit altul"În fata unei boli esti precaut sau prost", o stai ..Bici zice ca o gasit a buna...mis un cane rau dar cu suflet mare
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wolfin |
17 Mar 2007, 18:45
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n-am gasit cu dacia Group: Members Posts: 7.910 Joined: 2 December 05 From: Bucuresti |
extraya the easter bunny has came
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3120
... din 1980 si ceva. Urmeaza si 2020
- Curand de provincie Scuze Mucix, am gasit altul"În fata unei boli esti precaut sau prost", o stai ..Bici zice ca o gasit a buna...mis un cane rau dar cu suflet mare
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xtraya |
20 Mar 2007, 01:26
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Membru incepator Group: Members Posts: 72 Joined: 6 July 05 From: Belgrade Serbia |
haha, that is it eegean blue tnx very much
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wolfin |
21 Mar 2007, 09:01
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n-am gasit cu dacia Group: Members Posts: 7.910 Joined: 2 December 05 From: Bucuresti |
the envelop is on the way. i hope is no problem at the costom with him(metal recipient with inflamable content) and with colur of the marker
do not forget to singn for receive the envelope y hope to be hepfull for your problem. |
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3120
... din 1980 si ceva. Urmeaza si 2020
- Curand de provincie Scuze Mucix, am gasit altul"În fata unei boli esti precaut sau prost", o stai ..Bici zice ca o gasit a buna...mis un cane rau dar cu suflet mare
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